From davro@ics.muni.cz  Fri Jan  4 12:06:35 2002
From: davro@ics.muni.cz (David Rohleder)
Date: 04 Jan 2002 13:06:35 +0100
Subject: DocBook XML a prevod do pdf
Message-ID: <r254rm2nwvo.fsf@amandil.ics.muni.cz>

Ahoj,

nevi nekdo, ktere baliky musim mit nainstalovane, abych DocBook XML
byl schopen prevest do pdf?

Kdyz pouziji docbook2pdf, db2pdf, jw, tak vetsinou vypisuje, ze je TeX
zmateny, a dal to nejde. Pritom prevod do html pomoci docbook2html
nebo do rtf pres docbook2rtf funguje.


Nebo jak jinak na to?

Treba priklad:

<?xml version=3D"1.0" standalone=3D"no"?>
<!DOCTYPE book PUBLIC "-//OASIS//DTD DocBook XML V4.1.2//EN"=20
"http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.0/docbookx.dtd">

<book>
<bookinfo>
<title>Pokusn=E1 kniha</title>
<author><firstname>David</firstname> <surname>Rohleder</surname></author>
</bookinfo>
<part label=3D"1">
<title>=C8=E1st 1</title>
<chapter label=3D"1">
<title>Kapitola 1</title>
<para>
Pokus
</para>
</chapter>
<chapter>
<title>Druh=E1 kapitola</title>
<para>
druh=FD odstavec
</para>
</chapter>
</part>
</book>


--=20
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David Rohleder						davro@ics.muni.cz
Institute of Computer Science, Masaryk University
Brno, Czech Republic
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From hroch@monoceros.physics.muni.cz  Fri Jan  4 13:18:46 2002
From: hroch@monoceros.physics.muni.cz (Filip Hroch)
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 13:18:46 GMT
Subject: DocBook XML a prevod do pdf
References: <r254rm2nwvo.fsf@amandil.ics.muni.cz>
Message-ID: <slrna3batm.5e8.hroch@monoceros.physics.muni.cz>

Ciao

docbook2pdf nepouzivam, pouzivam primo jadetex.

z Makefile:

...

# pdf version
nightview.pdf: nightview.tex
        pdfjadetex nightview.tex

nightview.dvi: nightview.tex
        jadetex nightview.tex; jadetex nightview.tex;

nightview.tex: nightview.xml
    jade -d /usr/lib/sgml/stylesheet/dsssl/docbook/nwalsh/print/docbook.dsl \
         -t tex /usr/lib/sgml/declaration/xml.decl nightview.xml

....

FH



From davro@ics.muni.cz  Fri Jan  4 16:35:23 2002
From: davro@ics.muni.cz (David Rohleder)
Date: 04 Jan 2002 17:35:23 +0100
Subject: DocBook XML a prevod do pdf
In-Reply-To: <slrna3batm.5e8.hroch@monoceros.physics.muni.cz>
References: <r254rm2nwvo.fsf@amandil.ics.muni.cz>
 <slrna3batm.5e8.hroch@monoceros.physics.muni.cz>
Message-ID: <r25r8p6jcqc.fsf@amandil.ics.muni.cz>

hroch@monoceros.physics.muni.cz (Filip Hroch) writes:

> Ciao
> 
> docbook2pdf nepouzivam, pouzivam primo jadetex.
> 
> z Makefile:
> 
> ...
> 
> # pdf version
> nightview.pdf: nightview.tex
>         pdfjadetex nightview.tex
> 
> nightview.dvi: nightview.tex
>         jadetex nightview.tex; jadetex nightview.tex;
> 
> nightview.tex: nightview.xml
>     jade -d /usr/lib/sgml/stylesheet/dsssl/docbook/nwalsh/print/docbook.dsl \
>          -t tex /usr/lib/sgml/declaration/xml.decl nightview.xml
> 
> ....

Nejdriv se to tvarilo stejne:

amandil$ jade -d /usr/lib/sgml/stylesheet/dsssl/docbook/nwalsh/print/docbook.dsl -t tex /usr/lib/sgml/declaration/xml.decl pokus.xml  
amandil$ pdfjadetex pokus.tex 
This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-1.00a-pretest-20011114-ojmw (Web2C 7.3.7)
(Fatal format file error; I'm stymied)
amandil$ 


Ale pak jsem preinstaloval jadetex a zacalo to fungovat. Asi nejaka
trochu poskozena instalace jadetexu (nebo nevygenerovany format).

Diky za pomoc.

-- 
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David Rohleder						davro@ics.muni.cz
Institute of Computer Science, Masaryk University
Brno, Czech Republic
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From Radek@hnilica.cz  Tue Jan  8 16:55:42 2002
From: Radek@hnilica.cz (Radek Hnilica)
Date: 8 Jan 2002 16:55:42 GMT
Subject: DocBook XML a prevod do pdf
References: <r254rm2nwvo.fsf@amandil.ics.muni.cz> <r25r8p6jcqc.fsf@amandil.ics.muni.cz>
Message-ID: <slrna3m94f.e4o.radek@kvark.balga.cz>

Dobry den, rad bych se zeptal, jak resite cestinu.
Zkousel jsem pouzit docbook2ps a docbook2pdf a cestina je nehezka.

-- 
Radek Hnilica <Radek at Hnilica dot CZ>
===========================
No matter how far down the wrong road you've gone, turn back.
						Turkish proverb





From hroch@monoceros.physics.muni.cz  Wed Jan  9 11:14:18 2002
From: hroch@monoceros.physics.muni.cz (Filip Hroch)
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 11:14:18 GMT
Subject: DocBook XML a prevod do pdf
References: <r254rm2nwvo.fsf@amandil.ics.muni.cz> <r25r8p6jcqc.fsf@amandil.ics.muni.cz> <slrna3m94f.e4o.radek@kvark.balga.cz>
Message-ID: <slrna3o9ga.r69.hroch@monoceros.physics.muni.cz>

Ciao

mozna by mohlo pomoct nastavit

SP_ENCODING=iso-8859-2

u jade to pomaha...

FH


On 8 Jan 2002 16:55:42 GMT, Radek Hnilica <radek@hnilica.cz> wrote:
>Dobry den, rad bych se zeptal, jak resite cestinu.
>Zkousel jsem pouzit docbook2ps a docbook2pdf a cestina je nehezka.


From Radek@hnilica.cz  Thu Jan 10 10:13:32 2002
From: Radek@hnilica.cz (Radek Hnilica)
Date: 10 Jan 2002 10:13:32 GMT
Subject: DocBook XML a prevod do pdf
References: <r254rm2nwvo.fsf@amandil.ics.muni.cz> <r25r8p6jcqc.fsf@amandil.ics.muni.cz> <slrna3m94f.e4o.radek@kvark.balga.cz> <slrna3o9ga.r69.hroch@monoceros.physics.muni.cz>
Message-ID: <slrna3qqa8.21q.radek@kvark.balga.cz>

> mozna by mohlo pomoct nastavit
> SP_ENCODING=iso-8859-2
> u jade to pomaha...

Diky, uz je to hezky cesky.
:) ano, cloveku musi byt porad pripominano co zapomel.

Takze v cestine a na papire to uz mam.  Ted je na rade dalsi problem.
Jeste jsem se na to nedival, ale zeptam se zdali to jde.
Da se najak zasahnout do upravy dokumentu (PS,PDF).
Napriklad se mi nelibi, ze vsechen text je odsazen od okraje vice nez
nadpis kapitoly.

Prave so divam do materialu od J.Koska.  Neco tam je.  Zkusim
jestli to pujde.


Zkousel jste nekdo tyto ci podobne upravy?
Mate nekdo "zajimave" ci vubec nejake vetsi modifikace tiskovych stylu?

-- 
Radek Hnilica <Radek at Hnilica dot CZ>
===========================
No matter how far down the wrong road you've gone, turn back.
						Turkish proverb





From p.houdek@seznam.cz  Thu Jan 10 13:37:36 2002
From: p.houdek@seznam.cz (Pavel Houdek)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 14:37:36 +0100
Subject: Problem s libpng
Message-ID: <E16OfOj-0000M8-00@betula.fsid.cvut.cz>

Zdravim
mam problemek s libpng.. pouzivam unstable a mam natocene libpng2 (1.0.12-3) 
a libpng3 (1.2.1-1) 
Nezobrazuji se mi nektere syst obrazky (uvodni v KDE) a nektere ikonky 
(trebas v kmailu tlacitka). Ostatni programky jsou v pohode (konqueror, kate 
atp...) Error-log mam plny hlasek:
... 
libpng warning: Application was compiled with png.h from libpng-1.0.12
libpng warning: Application  is  running with png.c from libpng-1.2.1
libpng error: Incompatible libpng version in application and library
libpng warning: Application was compiled with png.h from libpng-1.0.12
...atd

Pri pokusu o odinstalovani problematicke libpng3 dpkg zahlasi:

betula:/home/buggy# dpkg -r libpng3
dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of libpng3:
 gs depends on libpng3.
 kmail depends on libpng3.
 kate depends on libpng3.
...
...
dpkg: error processing libpng3 (--remove):
 dependency problems - not removing
Errors were encountered while processing:
 libpng3

Co by bylo nejlepsi? Odstranit nejak libpng3? Nebo je to nekde jinde?  
Problem vznikl po vcerejsim dist-upgrade...  
Pozn. cca pred mesicem jsem si kompiloval vlastni kmail z duvodu jistych 
problemu s nenabihanim, muze to byt tim?

Diky za prip. poradu...
hezky den
ph 
-- 
Pavel Houdek
p.houdek@seznam.cz


From hroch@monoceros.physics.muni.cz  Thu Jan 10 12:52:01 2002
From: hroch@monoceros.physics.muni.cz (Filip Hroch)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 12:52:01 GMT
Subject: DocBook XML a prevod do pdf
References: <r254rm2nwvo.fsf@amandil.ics.muni.cz> <r25r8p6jcqc.fsf@amandil.ics.muni.cz> <slrna3m94f.e4o.radek@kvark.balga.cz> <slrna3o9ga.r69.hroch@monoceros.physics.muni.cz> <slrna3qqa8.21q.radek@kvark.balga.cz>
Message-ID: <slrna3r3jh.gbp.hroch@monoceros.physics.muni.cz>

Ciao

nikdo neodpovida tak opet ja, ale v tomhle se uz moc nevyznam.
Je treba modifikovat soubory s .dtd a mozna i nejaky dalsi z
docbooku. Nidky jsem to nedelal tak muzu jen poradit ze je to
popsane v docbooku dokumentaci.

Jinak jeste doporucuju pouzival xslproc (neni ovsem v Potato)
co by mela byt modernejsi verze jade ktere je ted mrtve a vyviji
se jen OpenJade. 

FH



On 10 Jan 2002 10:13:32 GMT, Radek Hnilica <radek@hnilica.cz> wrote:
>> mozna by mohlo pomoct nastavit
>> SP_ENCODING=iso-8859-2
>> u jade to pomaha...
>
>Diky, uz je to hezky cesky.
>:) ano, cloveku musi byt porad pripominano co zapomel.
>
>Takze v cestine a na papire to uz mam.  Ted je na rade dalsi problem.
>Jeste jsem se na to nedival, ale zeptam se zdali to jde.
>Da se najak zasahnout do upravy dokumentu (PS,PDF).
>Napriklad se mi nelibi, ze vsechen text je odsazen od okraje vice nez
>nadpis kapitoly.
>
>Prave so divam do materialu od J.Koska.  Neco tam je.  Zkusim
>jestli to pujde.
>
>
>Zkousel jste nekdo tyto ci podobne upravy?
>Mate nekdo "zajimave" ci vubec nejake vetsi modifikace tiskovych stylu?


From davro@ics.muni.cz  Thu Jan 10 14:46:48 2002
From: davro@ics.muni.cz (David Rohleder)
Date: 10 Jan 2002 15:46:48 +0100
Subject: DocBook XML a prevod do pdf
In-Reply-To: <slrna3r3jh.gbp.hroch@monoceros.physics.muni.cz>
References: <r254rm2nwvo.fsf@amandil.ics.muni.cz>
 <r25r8p6jcqc.fsf@amandil.ics.muni.cz>
 <slrna3m94f.e4o.radek@kvark.balga.cz>
 <slrna3o9ga.r69.hroch@monoceros.physics.muni.cz>
 <slrna3qqa8.21q.radek@kvark.balga.cz>
 <slrna3r3jh.gbp.hroch@monoceros.physics.muni.cz>
Message-ID: <r25ofk2gt5z.fsf@amandil.ics.muni.cz>

hroch@monoceros.physics.muni.cz (Filip Hroch) writes:

> Ciao
> 
> nikdo neodpovida tak opet ja, ale v tomhle se uz moc nevyznam.
> Je treba modifikovat soubory s .dtd a mozna i nejaky dalsi z

Modifikovat DTD? To by se menily tagy. Myslim, ze spis modifikovat
neco jako XSL nebo DSSSL (toto pouziva jade), ale myslim, ze
minimalne v pripade DSSSL je to slozite jak zebrik.


-- 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
David Rohleder						davro@ics.muni.cz
Institute of Computer Science, Masaryk University
Brno, Czech Republic
-------------------------------------------------------------------------


From vaclav.hula@capitol.cz  Thu Jan 10 15:12:45 2002
From: vaclav.hula@capitol.cz (Vaclav Hula)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:12:45 +0100
Subject: Problem s libpng
In-Reply-To: <E16OfOj-0000M8-00@betula.fsid.cvut.cz>
References: <E16OfOj-0000M8-00@betula.fsid.cvut.cz>
Message-ID: <E16Ogso-0004gp-00@www.debian.cz>

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Dne čt 10. leden 2002 14:37 jste napsal(a):
> Zdravim
> mam problemek s libpng.. pouzivam unstable a mam natocene libpng2
> (1.0.12-3) a libpng3 (1.2.1-1)

problem je v konfliktu mezi libpng2 a libpng3, napsalo se o tom uz velmi 
mnoho mailu (zejmena na debian-devel, debian-kde a debian-user). Spravne 
reseni problemu je pockat, kde se momentalne prebudovava a postupne 
uploaduje, navic puvodni maintainer KDEcka zjistil, ze uz na to nema silu 
a tudiz to prevzal nekdo jiny, cimze se to jeste spomalilo.

Ax
- -- 
S pozdravem
Vaclav Hula	                                 vaclav.hula@capitol.cz
Capitol Internet Publisher, Korunovacni 6, 170 00 Prague 7, Czech Republic
tel.: ++420 2 3337 1113, fax:  ++420 2 3337 1112

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From Radek@hnilica.cz  Thu Jan 10 16:22:27 2002
From: Radek@hnilica.cz (Radek Hnilica)
Date: 10 Jan 2002 16:22:27 GMT
Subject: DocBook XML a prevod do pdf
References: <r254rm2nwvo.fsf@amandil.ics.muni.cz> <r25ofk2gt5z.fsf@amandil.ics.muni.cz>
Message-ID: <slrna3rfu4.51a.radek@kvark.balga.cz>

In article <r25ofk2gt5z.fsf@amandil.ics.muni.cz>, David Rohleder wrote:
> 
> Modifikovat DTD? To by se menily tagy. Myslim, ze spis modifikovat
> neco jako XSL nebo DSSSL (toto pouziva jade), ale myslim, ze
> minimalne v pripade DSSSL je to slozite jak zebrik.
> 

No ja bych rekl, ze slozite je to co neumis, a jednoduche to co umis.
Otazka, ucit se DSSSL a DTD je spise veci casu a hlavne nekoho na koho
je mozno se obratit ze "hloupymi" zatecnickymi dotazy.

Navic pod tlakem budoucnosti, vsichni rikaji ze budoucnost je v XML, XSL,
kdo najde odvahu zacinat s DSSSL.  Bude nekdo udrzovat DSSSL pro DocBook?
Jak dlouho jeste?

Kdybych rozchodil transformaci z FO -> PS/PDF, tak jsem jade ani nezkousel.

:)? Mam inestovat cas a nervy do FO -> PS/PDF, nebo se ted zahrabat do
DSSSL?

Kdyz jsem se dival na knihy od O'Reilly, tak jak od pohledu tak od zminek
jsem zjistil, ze pouzivaji nejake vlastni (DSSSL/XSL) sheety a transformuji
ne do TeXu ale do groffu.  No ale mozna se pletu.

-- 
Radek Hnilica <Radek at Hnilica dot CZ>
===========================
No matter how far down the wrong road you've gone, turn back.
						Turkish proverb





From Radek@hnilica.cz  Thu Jan 10 16:07:05 2002
From: Radek@hnilica.cz (Radek Hnilica)
Date: 10 Jan 2002 16:07:05 GMT
Subject: DocBook XML a prevod do pdf
References: <r254rm2nwvo.fsf@amandil.ics.muni.cz> <r25r8p6jcqc.fsf@amandil.ics.muni.cz> <slrna3m94f.e4o.radek@kvark.balga.cz> <slrna3o9ga.r69.hroch@monoceros.physics.muni.cz> <slrna3qqa8.21q.radek@kvark.balga.cz> <slrna3r3jh.gbp.hroch@monoceros.physics.muni.cz>
Message-ID: <slrna3rf16.51a.radek@kvark.balga.cz>

In article <slrna3r3jh.gbp.hroch@monoceros.physics.muni.cz>, Filip Hroch wrote:

> Jinak jeste doporucuju pouzival xslproc (neni ovsem v Potato)
> co by mela byt modernejsi verze jade ktere je ted mrtve a vyviji
> se jen OpenJade. 
 
Hm. ja myslel modifikovat vystup, transformaci do PS,PDF, nikoliv
vlastni docbook (dtd).  No a xslproc je prece xsl procesor.

XSL transformaci z Docbooku do PS,PDF jsem nerozchodil.  FO vytvorit
umim, ale dal pak se mi nedari.  Vzdycky skoncim na tom, ze TeX tomu
FO nerozumi.
Jako xslt jsem pouzival saxon, posledni verzi.

Ted jsem stastny jak blecha, ze mi funguje docbook2ps.
Html ale delam pres saxon a DocBook xsl sheety.

Jen bych trochu potreboval upravit design toho co mi vyjde na papire.
Neco malo jsem si udelel podle J.Koska, ale rad bych se poucil u jinych,
pokud maji rozsahlejsi print.dsl.


Po pravde receno, jsem byl posledni dobou tak zoufly (z neschopnosti
dostat docbook na papir) ze jsem zacal zkouset Lout, a mozna jeste
starsi, NEJ genialnejsi sazeci system groff.  Jenze z toho bych zadne
html nedostal.


Apropos, jak delate obrazky.  Myslim takovou tu carovou grafiku, dagramy
a i trochu slozitejsi schemata.  Ja uvazuju o Loutu a groffu,
z obojiho dostanu vektorovy postscript a z toho snad vsechny formaty
co budu potrebovat.

-- 
Radek Hnilica <Radek at Hnilica dot CZ>
===========================
No matter how far down the wrong road you've gone, turn back.
						Turkish proverb





From hroch@monoceros.physics.muni.cz  Thu Jan 10 17:36:10 2002
From: hroch@monoceros.physics.muni.cz (Filip Hroch)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 17:36:10 GMT
Subject: DocBook XML a prevod do pdf
References: <r254rm2nwvo.fsf@amandil.ics.muni.cz> <r25r8p6jcqc.fsf@amandil.ics.muni.cz> <slrna3m94f.e4o.radek@kvark.balga.cz> <slrna3o9ga.r69.hroch@monoceros.physics.muni.cz> <slrna3qqa8.21q.radek@kvark.balga.cz> <slrna3r3jh.gbp.hroch@monoceros.physics.muni.cz> <slrna3rf16.51a.radek@kvark.balga.cz>
Message-ID: <slrna3rk8a.ro9.hroch@monoceros.physics.muni.cz>

Ciao

On 10 Jan 2002 16:07:05 GMT, Radek Hnilica <radek@hnilica.cz> wrote:
>
>Apropos, jak delate obrazky.  Myslim takovou tu carovou grafiku, dagramy
>a i trochu slozitejsi schemata.  Ja uvazuju o Loutu a groffu,
>z obojiho dostanu vektorovy postscript a z toho snad vsechny formaty
>co budu potrebovat.

Pouzivam xfig.

FH 


From Vaclav.Ovsik@i.cz  Mon Jan 14 10:12:36 2002
From: Vaclav.Ovsik@i.cz (Vaclav Ovsik)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 11:12:36 +0100
Subject: nestabilita po upgrade libc6 na 2.1.3-20
Message-ID: <20020114111235.A1083@bobek.i.cz>

Mam distribuci Potato na notebooku kernel 2.2.19.
Provozuju to tak, ze delam suspend to disk a Linux bezi bez restartu
radove mesice.
Obcas upgraduju baliky - nedelam to kazdy den, ale minimalne tak
jednou za tyden ano.

V Patek jsem zase jednou udelal upgrade. Krom nejakych baliku
jako samba a gzip se upgradovala i libc6. Dobra, rekl jsem si,
zrestartoval jsem stroj, aby si novou knihovnu natahly vsechny
potvory co mi v tom bezi.

Vsechno v pohode az do dnesniho rana. Normalka pracuju pres ssh
na uplne jinem stroji, kdyz tu se mi zresetoval notebook pod rukama.
Proste BIOS POST ... Po nabehnuti v logach samozrejme nic.

Protoze neco takoveho se mi nestalo uz nekolik let, uvazuju, jestli
to nesouvisi s tim upgradem libc6.

Nema nekdo podobny problem?

Mam ted trochu obavy, upgradoval jsem 11.1. i dva dalsi stroje (ty zatim nic).
Pochopitelne nelze vyloucit i nejaky HW problem, ale notebook
dost trapim uz pres rok, a nikdy se takhle zbabele nezachoval.

-- 
	Vaclav Ovsik		email: Vaclav.Ovsik@i.cz
	ICZ a.s.		phone: +420 19 7488511
				fax:   +420 19 7488506



From uhlar@fantomas.sk  Fri Jan 18 18:01:03 2002
From: uhlar@fantomas.sk (uhlar@fantomas.sk)
Date: 18 Jan 2002 18:01:03 GMT
Subject: pomale odezvy systemu
References: <Xns9199E437870FCrichardkozacz@193.88.15.201>
Message-ID: <1011376863.93612@virtual.nextra.sk>

Richard Koza <richard@koza.cz> wrote:
-> mam nainstalovany Debian jako Linux GW do Inetu (vcetne ipchains). Vse 
-> funguje, ale zhruba po 14ti dnech najednou system ma pomale odezvy na 
-> prikazy. Napr. Dam traceroute na neco a strasne dlouho trva nez se neco 
-> rozbehne. Pri zalogovani pres ssh(Putty z Win) se teprve po delsi dobe 
-> otevre okno (je navazana komunikace) a po zadani jmena a hesla je delsi (i 
-> minutova) prodleva nez nabehne prompt.

-> Mohl by mi nekdo poradit, kde hledat chybu ? Jak napr vyhledat co by mohlo 
-> zrat ten cas - co zrovna system dela , kdyz cekam na tu odezvu?

top, free, mozno mate niekde memory leak
alebo, v pripade automatickej konfiguracie ipchains zasratu firewall 
tabulku. tusim sa take nieco preberalo v cz.comp.linux - kuknite sa do jej
archivu.

-- 
 Matus "fantomas" Uhlar, uhlar@fantomas.sk ; http://www.fantomas.sk/
 Warning: I don't wish to receive spam to this address.
 Varovanie: Nezelam si na tuto adresu dostavat akukolvek reklamnu postu.
 "They say when you play that M$ CD backward you can hear satanic messages."
 "That's nothing. If you play it forward it will install Windows."


From jhollan@amper.ped.muni.cz  Sat Jan 19 13:38:58 2002
From: jhollan@amper.ped.muni.cz (Jan Hollan)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 14:38:58 +0100 (CET)
Subject: pomale odezvy systemu
In-Reply-To: <E16RtPo-00088z-00@www.debian.cz>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0201191433410.7949-100000@amper.ped.muni.cz>

Me tak se tak pred casem zacal pomalu chovat amper.ped.muni.cz, problem
byl v tom, ze to zaviselo na pomalosti nevhodneho DNS. Kdyz jsem na radu
zkusenejsich dal jako prvni DNS rychly pocitac a teprve jako druhy ten
puvodni pomaly, tj. do 
 /etc/resolv.conf napsal

search ped.muni.cz
nameserver 147.251.4.33
nameserver 147.251.192.1

vsechno zacalo jit jako po masle. 

jenik hollan



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From thomas.kral@centrum.cz  Sat Jan 19 09:28:30 2002
From: thomas.kral@centrum.cz (Thomas Kral)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 10:28:30 +0100
Subject: 3 vrstva aplikace
Message-ID: <3C493C3E.7F89BA39@centrum.cz>

ahoj,

potreboval bych portovat aplikacni vrstvu z delphi(windows sockets/dcom)

pod linux.

muzete nekdo doporucit vhodnou open/gpl technologii, ktera je dobre
dokumentovana?

zkousel jsem kylix ale uprednostnoval bych 'unix way of doing it'
slysel jsem of sockets/rpc/corba/soap ale nemam velke zkusenosti ani z
jednou z nich.

dik.

--

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
(*)  Thomas KRAL  (*)
  LiNUX enthusiast
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~





From davro@ics.muni.cz  Fri Jan 25 19:02:23 2002
From: davro@ics.muni.cz (David Rohleder)
Date: 25 Jan 2002 20:02:23 +0100
Subject: 3 vrstva aplikace
In-Reply-To: <3C493C3E.7F89BA39@centrum.cz>
References: <3C493C3E.7F89BA39@centrum.cz>
Message-ID: <r257kq6tfsw.fsf@amandil.ics.muni.cz>

Thomas Kral <thomas.kral@centrum.cz> writes:

> ahoj,
> 
> potreboval bych portovat aplikacni vrstvu z delphi(windows sockets/dcom)
> 
> pod linux.
> 
> muzete nekdo doporucit vhodnou open/gpl technologii, ktera je dobre
> dokumentovana?
> 
> zkousel jsem kylix ale uprednostnoval bych 'unix way of doing it'
> slysel jsem of sockets/rpc/corba/soap ale nemam velke zkusenosti ani z
> jednou z nich.


Primym konkurentem DCOM by mela byt CORBA (teda ono je to spis naopak,
CORBA je standard). Myslim, ze lepsi misto na dotaz by bylo spis
linux@linux.cz (cz.comp.linux).



-- 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
David Rohleder						davro@ics.muni.cz
Institute of Computer Science, Masaryk University
Brno, Czech Republic
-------------------------------------------------------------------------


From pupala@sse-za.sk  Fri Jan 25 20:43:03 2002
From: pupala@sse-za.sk (Ronald Pupala)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 21:43:03 +0100
Subject: Scientific Viewer
Message-ID: <000d01c1a5e0$e366b160$03051096@okvkod03>

Ahojte vsetci !

   Chcem sa na  Vas obratit s malou prosbou ! Na stare kolena sa mi podarilo
dostat sa na VS na distancne studium elektroenergetiky. A tu zacali moje
trable.
Pre studium matematickej analyzy mame vsetky materialy spacovane v prostredi
Scientific WorkPlace. Tieto dokumenty su vo formate .TEX t.j. tex-ove
zdrojaky.
Kompletna latka sa da prehliadat programom Scientific Viewer, ktory je
zadarmo pouzitelny ( http://www.mackichan.com/ ). Toto je samostatny
prehliadac, ktory dynamicky kompiluje a zobrazuje .tex dokumenty pristupne
na net-e a podporuje aj hypertextove odkazy v zdrojakoch TEX-u .
Najprv som ho nevedel spojazdnit. Myslel som si, ze nefunguje koli
netransparentnemu proxy, ktory pouzivame vo firme. Potom som si ho ale
nainstaloval v inej firme, a tam mi cez proxy fungoval. To znaci, ze
nastavenie proxy si v instalacii prevzal z nastavenia IE.
A tak som zistil, ze s proxy spolupracuje, ale ten v nasej firme vyzaduje
autentifikaciu a
userneme a password pre proxy neviem do SV nikde dostat.
A ani neviem, ci sa da nejako automaticke prihlasenie na nase proxy nejako
nastavit aj v IE. Mozno aj to by Scientific Viewer prevzal z IE. Toto je
program pre Win, ako ste uz iste postrehli.

   A teraz dotaz : nie je nieco v debian-e, co by pracovalo ako plugin pre
niektory prehliadac, ktory by mi umoznoval toto iste (t.j. dynamicku
kompilaciu a zobrazenie .tex dokumentu, ktory by podporoval aj hypertextove
odkazy ? Alebo aj samostatny prehliadac ?
   Ak som sa zle vyjadril, alebo je nieco nezrozumitelne, mozete to z
horeuvedenej adresy stiahnut, a je tam uvedena aj stranka, na ktorej je to
mozne odskusat.

A na zaver pridavam v prilohe subor "maindex.tex", lebo sam v tex-u
nepracujem, a nechcem so 100%  istotou tvrdit, ze sa jedna o TEX. Hlavne mi
to nesedi koli tym hypertextovym odkazom. Neviem ci "pravy" TEX taketo nieco
podporuje.
Kazdu chvilu, co sa bavim spojazdnenim Scientific Viewer-u, stracam na
studium MA.

Dakujem za pomoc.

Rony pupala@sse-za.sk




From pupala@sse-za.sk  Fri Jan 25 20:51:45 2002
From: pupala@sse-za.sk (Ronald Pupala)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 21:51:45 +0100
Subject: Scientific Viewer
Message-ID: <007e01c1a5e2$19fd30e0$03051096@okvkod03>

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From zdenek@biolab2.med.muni.cz  Mon Jan 28 08:39:35 2002
From: zdenek@biolab2.med.muni.cz (Zdenek Moravcik)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 08:39:35 GMT
Subject: undefined color
Message-ID: <slrna5a3i7.ajm.zdenek@biolab2.med.muni.cz>

Jsem pripojen k X serveru a kdyz chci spustit napriklad emacs,
program skonci hlasenim:

undefined color: "#0000ff "

(vsimnete si mezery pred uvozovkou vpravo)

Podobne hlaseni mi davaji i jine programy bezici v X.

Co delam spatne?
Pouzivam debian 2.2r5 na obou strojich.

Zdenek




From masik@nc25.troja.mff.cuni.cz  Tue Jan 29 10:47:25 2002
From: masik@nc25.troja.mff.cuni.cz (Jiri Masik)
Date: 29 Jan 2002 11:47:25 +0100
Subject: undefined color
References: <slrna5a3i7.ajm.zdenek@biolab2.med.muni.cz>
Message-ID: <q9sn8p303m.fsf@nc25.troja.mff.cuni.cz>

zdenek@biolab2.med.muni.cz (Zdenek Moravcik) writes:

> Jsem pripojen k X serveru a kdyz chci spustit napriklad emacs,
> program skonci hlasenim:
> 
> undefined color: "#0000ff "
> 
> (vsimnete si mezery pred uvozovkou vpravo)
> 
> Podobne hlaseni mi davaji i jine programy bezici v X.
> 

Zkuste najit a smazat tu mezeru za ff. V nejakem Xresource nejspis
bude. Neznam pravidla pro zpracovani techto souboru, tak nevim, jestli
je to bug nebo feature, je mozne, ze "#0000ff " je platny alias pro
barvu.

        Jirka


From hroch@monoceros.physics.muni.cz  Tue Jan 29 11:34:23 2002
From: hroch@monoceros.physics.muni.cz (Filip Hroch)
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 11:34:23 GMT
Subject: undefined color
References: <slrna5a3i7.ajm.zdenek@biolab2.med.muni.cz>
Message-ID: <slrna5d25v.9f1.hroch@monoceros.physics.muni.cz>


Ciao

barvy pro X jsou definovane v soubory rgb.txt. Ja mam dva:

/etc/X11/rgb.txt
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb.txt

Asi bych mrknul na ne, jestli jsou OK.

Nebo je spatna barevna hloubka?

FH 

On Mon, 28 Jan 2002 08:39:35 GMT, Zdenek Moravcik wrote:
>
>Jsem pripojen k X serveru a kdyz chci spustit napriklad emacs,
>program skonci hlasenim:
>
>undefined color: "#0000ff "
>
>(vsimnete si mezery pred uvozovkou vpravo)
>
>Podobne hlaseni mi davaji i jine programy bezici v X.
>
>Co delam spatne?
>Pouzivam debian 2.2r5 na obou strojich.
>
>Zdenek
>
>


From Petr.Herman@lfmotol.cuni.cz  Tue Jan 29 12:49:47 2002
From: Petr.Herman@lfmotol.cuni.cz (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Petr_He=F8man?=)
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 13:49:47 +0100
Subject: Unable to open an initial console
References: <slrna5a3i7.ajm.zdenek@biolab2.med.muni.cz> <q9sn8p303m.fsf@nc25.troja.mff.cuni.cz>
Message-ID: <000701c1a8c3$6f1327e0$e02b71c3@lf2.cuni.cz>

Pros=EDm o pomoc, nejsem z=E1dn=FD guru, ale obycejn=FD ucivatel Debianu.
Ted uz pres rok prakticky non-stop jedu stable potato bez vets=EDch probl=
=E9mu,
kernel puvodn=ED z t=E9 distribuce, snad 2.0.38 ?
Dnes pri pokusu zalogovat se na konsoli po zaps=E1n=ED loginu uz nenabehl=
a r=E1dka
Password
a to na z=E1dn=E9 z virt. konsol=ED. Usoudil jsem, ze asi nev=EDmproc chc=
=EDpnul getty
(nebo jak se to jmenuje).
Ping OK, ale telnetnout z jin=E9ho stroje se nedalo, ftp tak=E9 odm=EDtnu=
t; Apache
norm=E1lne bezel. Co delat?
Na trojhmat to vypadalo, ze nereaguje, nicm=E9ne za chv=EDli zacal reboot=
ovat -
zrejme reagoval,
ale nevypisoval pritom nic na konsoli.

Boot norm=E1lne az do r=E1dky:
    VFS: Mounted root readonly

ale hned za n=ED mne nepr=EDlis pochopiteln=E1 hl=E1ska:
    Unable to open an initial console

To nev=EDm jak si vylozit, jak=FD muze m=EDt probl=E9m, ze nemuze otevr=ED=
t konsoli?
Pak zacne zases=E1m o sobe rebootovat a to por=E1d ad infinitum. Co delat=
?

M=E1m na disku jeste nejak=E9 z=E1lozn=ED partition se sb=EDrkou vselijak=
=FDch dals=EDch
jader,
vetsinou v=FDsledek tent=FDz, jen v jednom pr=EDpade to probehlo norm=E1l=
ne o kus
d=E1l,
ale po tom, co se namountovaly vsechny filesyst=E9my, tak se na me vyvali=
lo
asi 20
hl=E1sek Segmentation fault pri prov=E1den=ED skriptu z adres=E1re /etc/r=
cS.d/
(nejv=EDc ve skriptu S38set6x86) a t=EDm p=E1dem se nerozbehla rada sluze=
b.
Ale zalogovat me to nechalo norm=E1lne.

Ze by odesla pamet? Nakonec jsem jeste (s pocitem potupy) zkusil nabootov=
at
W95
a ty nabehly naprosto norm=E1lne. Takze ted fakt uz nev=EDm co s t=EDm.

Dekuji za kazd=FD n=E1pad,
Petr Herman





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From m.maiksnar@volny.cz  Tue Jan 29 21:45:47 2002
From: m.maiksnar@volny.cz (Miroslav Maiksnar)
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 22:45:47 +0100
Subject: X a cukava multimedia
References: <slrna5a3i7.ajm.zdenek@biolab2.med.muni.cz> <slrna5d25v.9f1.hroch@monoceros.physics.muni.cz>
Message-ID: <3C57180B.5080103@volny.cz>

Zdravim,
mam zahadny problem s X. Kdyz pustim nejake video (DivX v mplayeru nebo 
xine) nebo narocnejsi hru (F.A.K.K.2), tak dochazi k "zadrhavani". 
Proste se to na chvilku pozastavi (cca 0.5 sec) a pak se to zase 
rozbehne. Stava se to tak kazdych 10-15 vterin (proste dost casto na to 
aby to vadilo ;o( ). Nejzajimavejsi na tom ale je, ze kdyz se naloguju 
jako root, tak jede vse plynule. Netusite nekdo kde by co mohlo byt spatne?

Moje konfigurace:
AMD TB 1333,
256MB RAM,
ABIT KT7A-RAID
nVidia GeForce2Ti 64MB (ovladace nVidia 1.0.2314)
aktualni testing distribuce (woody)
kernel 2.4.17
XFree 4.1.0




From Grantf@dccnet.com  Tue Jan 29 22:26:58 2002
From: Grantf@dccnet.com (Pumpkin)
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 14:26:58 -0800
Subject: Voodoo2 and Debian, lost cause?
Message-ID: <u5e8gge9job9b8@corp.supernews.com>

I was wondering if anyone here has ever gotten a voodoo2 Accelerator card
(or better yet a Dual Voodoo2 SLI config) working in Debian.

If so under what kernel and most of all... how?
Everywhere I've looked it says the Voodoo chipset isn't supported until
Voodoo3+ cards..
is this correct?

If so am I out of luck using hardware acceleration in my favourite OS?




From jiri.borik@volny.cz  Tue Jan 29 21:08:54 2002
From: jiri.borik@volny.cz (Jiri Borik)
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 22:08:54 +0100 (CET)
Subject: Unable to open an initial console
In-Reply-To: <000701c1a8c3$6f1327e0$e02b71c3@lf2.cuni.cz>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.1020129215043.522B-100000@u24.u24>

On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, [iso-8859-1] Petr He=F8man wrote:

> Boot norm=E1lne az do r=E1dky:
>     VFS: Mounted root readonly
>=20
> ale hned za n=ED mne nepr=EDlis pochopiteln=E1 hl=E1ska:
>     Unable to open an initial console
>=20
> To nev=EDm jak si vylozit, jak=FD muze m=EDt probl=E9m, ze nemuze otevr=
=EDt konsoli?
> Pak zacne zases=E1m o sobe rebootovat a to por=E1d ad infinitum. Co delat=
?

Uvedenou hlasku vypisuje init, kdyz se mu nepodari otevrit konzolu:
=20
       if ((open("/dev/tty1",O_RDWR,0) < 0) &&
            (open("/dev/ttyS0",O_RDWR,0) < 0))
                printk("Unable to open an initial console.\n");
=20
Me se to podarilo jednou z initu vyloudit, kdyz jsem prekopiroval system
na jiny pocitac, a zapomnel jsem prenest /dev ;-).=20

Pokud vyloucis nejaky podobny omyl, mohl by to byt treba nabourany disk.
Zkusil bych nabootovat z jineho disku nebo nejake disketove instalace,
provest fsck problemoveho fs, pak ho primountit a zkontrolovat /dev, logy
atd.

Jirka Borik <jiri.borik@volny.cz>




From Peter.Mann@tuke.sk  Wed Jan 30 11:01:09 2002
From: Peter.Mann@tuke.sk (Peter Mann)
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 12:01:09 +0100
Subject: X a cukava multimedia
In-Reply-To: <3C57180B.5080103@volny.cz>
References: <slrna5a3i7.ajm.zdenek@biolab2.med.muni.cz> <slrna5d25v.9f1.hroch@monoceros.physics.muni.cz> <3C57180B.5080103@volny.cz>
Message-ID: <20020130110109.GD10728@dot.tuke.sk>

On Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 10:45:47PM +0100, Miroslav Maiksnar wrote:
> mam zahadny problem s X. Kdyz pustim nejake video (DivX v mplayeru nebo 
> xine) nebo narocnejsi hru (F.A.K.K.2), tak dochazi k "zadrhavani". 
> Proste se to na chvilku pozastavi (cca 0.5 sec) a pak se to zase 
> rozbehne. Stava se to tak kazdych 10-15 vterin (proste dost casto na to 
> aby to vadilo ;o( ). 

potial by mi bolo vsetko jasne, zrejme nestiha disk, co ukaze hdparm
/dev/hd? malo by tam byt using_dma    =  1, podpora DMA pre IDE disky v
jadre

> Nejzajimavejsi na tom ale je, ze kdyz se naloguju 
> jako root, tak jede vse plynule. 

ale toto ma zmiatlo, takze neviem - mozno nejake priority?

-- 

5o   Peter.Mann at tuke.sk
     KLFMANiK ICQ 12491471
         PM2185-RIPE


From Petr.Herman@lfmotol.cuni.cz  Wed Jan 30 11:38:40 2002
From: Petr.Herman@lfmotol.cuni.cz (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Petr_He=F8man?=)
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 12:38:40 +0100
Subject: Unable to open an initial console
References: <Pine.LNX.3.95.1020129215043.522B-100000@u24.u24>
Message-ID: <004b01c1a982$aa94b6c0$e02b71c3@lf2.cuni.cz>

Ze by mohla byt nejaka chyba a adresasri /dev na to me upozornil uz Vaclav
Ovsik.
Jsem vul, ze me to nenapadlo hned, a je to skutecne tak. Jak uz jsem psal,
co bylo v /dev, je ted v /lib, co bylo v /lib, je docela jinde, a data zmen
adresaru ukazuji na nedeli, kdy jsem tu nebyl. Bylo mi to zahadou a nechci
byt paranoidni a videt za kazdou chybickou hned nejakeho hackera anebo
virus.
Ale ted uz mi asi jine vysvetleni nezbyva. V tom adresari /dev co byl
prejmenovany
na lib jsem objevil podivne veci, ktere v /dev obvykle nebyvaji,
a to jakysi balicek tuxkit.tgz o velikosti 1559962 bytes vyrobeny 10.1.2002,
tedy dost cerstvy, a adresare /dev/tux a /dev/tuxkit, prvni prazdny a v tom
druhem zrejme ta potvora rozbalena dokonce i s readme,
jmenuje se to Tuxtendo Linux Rootkit v. 1.0 z Jan 10-2002
a v tom zajimave nastroje se zajimavymi jmeny 0, p0, sniffer, hack aj
na skryvani procesu bezicich pod rootem, ruznych tabulek, vytvareni
zadnich vrate, odposlouchavani spojeni a takovych veci. Tak to cloveka
asi na pochybach uz nechat nemuze. Tezko rict, co mel za lubem,
mozna to sam nezvladnul, ze ustrihnul ten /dev.
Bohuzel se ted musim tyden stehovat a nemam naprosto cas nad tim hloubat.
Kazdopadne diky za radu. Mozna me to konecne privede na to,
ze se o ten Unix zacnu tajimat take trochu vic nez obycejny uzivatel.

Petr Herman


-----------------------------------------------------
> Uvedenou hlasku vypisuje init, kdyz se mu nepodari otevrit konzolu:
>
>        if ((open("/dev/tty1",O_RDWR,0) < 0) &&
>             (open("/dev/ttyS0",O_RDWR,0) < 0))
>                 printk("Unable to open an initial console.\n");
>
> Me se to podarilo jednou z initu vyloudit, kdyz jsem prekopiroval system
> na jiny pocitac, a zapomnel jsem prenest /dev ;-).
>
> Pokud vyloucis nejaky podobny omyl, mohl by to byt treba nabourany disk.
> Zkusil bych nabootovat z jineho disku nebo nejake disketove instalace,
> provest fsck problemoveho fs, pak ho primountit a zkontrolovat /dev, logy
> atd.
>
> Jirka Borik <jiri.borik@volny.cz>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________
> CZdebian-l maillist  -  CZdebian-l@debian.cz
> http://www.debian.cz/mailman/listinfo/czdebian-l
> E-mail (un)subscriptions: czdebian-l-request@debian.cz
>



From Petr.Herman@lfmotol.cuni.cz  Wed Jan 30 13:30:24 2002
From: Petr.Herman@lfmotol.cuni.cz (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Petr_He=F8man?=)
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 14:30:24 +0100
Subject: Unable to open an initial console
References: <Pine.LNX.3.95.1020129215043.522B-100000@u24.u24> <004b01c1a982$aa94b6c0$e02b71c3@lf2.cuni.cz>
Message-ID: <008701c1a992$46247bc0$e02b71c3@lf2.cuni.cz>

Ted se mi podarilo zjistit, ze se to vyrabi a vystavuje na
http://silver.tuxtendo.nl

Krome vselijakych hacku je tam i spousta zajimave
literatury o linuxu. Ale specielne o Debianu jsem tam
nenasel nic, takze s tim uz nebudu zatezovat tuhle konferu.
Ale nevim jestli se nejaka konfera venuje hackovani linuxu.
Jen by me zajimalo, jak se mi v tom potatu mohl dostat
na roota. Mam tam nastaveny shadow passwords
a kombinace pismen,znaku,cislic, co se normalne cracknout
neda.

Petr Herman
-----------------------------------------------------
----- Original Message -----
From: Petr He=F8man <Petr.Herman@lfmotol.cuni.cz>
To: Jiri Borik <jiri.borik@volny.cz>
Cc: <czdebian-l@debian.cz>
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: Unable to open an initial console


...
> Ale ted uz mi asi jine vysvetleni nezbyva. V tom adresari /dev co byl
> prejmenovany
> na lib jsem objevil podivne veci, ktere v /dev obvykle nebyvaji,
> a to jakysi balicek tuxkit.tgz o velikosti 1559962 bytes vyrobeny
10.1.2002,
> tedy dost cerstvy, a adresare /dev/tux a /dev/tuxkit, prvni prazdny a v
tom
> druhem zrejme ta potvora rozbalena dokonce i s readme,
> jmenuje se to Tuxtendo Linux Rootkit v. 1.0 z Jan 10-2002
> a v tom zajimave nastroje se zajimavymi jmeny 0, p0, sniffer, hack aj
> na skryvani procesu bezicich pod rootem, ruznych tabulek, vytvareni
> zadnich vrate, odposlouchavani spojeni a takovych veci. Tak to cloveka
> asi na pochybach uz nechat nemuze. Tezko rict, co mel za lubem,
> mozna to sam nezvladnul, ze ustrihnul ten /dev.
...




From pavelm@debian.cz  Wed Jan 30 15:00:49 2002
From: pavelm@debian.cz (pavel makovec)
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 16:00:49 +0100
Subject: WWW.DEBIAN.CZ
Message-ID: <001f01c1aa7d$b69c1200$856114d4@toba>

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christine,

the same thing that I wrote to you a couple of times already (see =
attachment) apply to www.debian.cz as well.

pavel makovec

----- Original Message -----=20
From: Christine Hall=20
To: czdebian-l@debian.cz=20
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 10:05 PM
Subject: WWW.DEBIAN.CZ


Hi

I visited WWW.DEBIAN.CZ, and noticed that you're not listed on some =
search engines! I think we can offer you a service which can help you =
increase traffic and the number of visitors to your website.

I would like to introduce you to TrafficMagnet.net. We offer a unique =
technology that will submit your website to over 300,000 search engines =
and directories every month.



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To find out more about TrafficMagnet and the cost for submitting your =
website to over 300,000 search engines and directories, visit =
www.TrafficMagnet.net.=20

I would love to hear from you.=20


Best Regards,

Christine Hall=20
Sales and Marketing=20
E-mail: christine@trafficmagnet.net=20
http://www.TrafficMagnet.net

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From: "pavel makovec" <pavelm@debian.cz>
To: "Christine Hall" <christine@trafficmagnet.net>
Cc: <info@freesoft.cz>
References: <200112241636.fBOGZwj19023@ns4.trafficnet.net>
Subject: Re: WWW.FREESOFT.CZ
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 18:22:59 +0100
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christine,

I sent you a reply on nov. 19, 2001. before you send another e-mail to =
info@freesoft.cz please _read_ it! see attachment.

pavel makovec


----- Original Message -----=20
From: Christine Hall=20
To: info@freesoft.cz=20
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 5:34 PM
Subject: WWW.FREESOFT.CZ


Hi

I visited WWW.FREESOFT.CZ, and noticed that you're not listed on some =
search engines! I think we can offer you a service which can help you =
increase traffic and the number of visitors to your website.

I would like to introduce you to TrafficMagnet.net. We offer a unique =
technology that will submit your website to over 300,000 search engines =
and directories every month.



You'll be surprised by the low cost, and by how effective this website =
promotion method can be.=20

To find out more about TrafficMagnet and the cost for submitting your =
website to over 300,000 search engines and directories, visit =
www.TrafficMagnet.net.=20

I would love to hear from you.=20


Best Regards,

Christine Hall=20
Sales and Marketing=20
E-mail: christine@trafficmagnet.net=20
http://www.TrafficMagnet.net

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From: "pavel makovec" <pavelm@debian.cz>
To: "Christine Hall" <christine@trafficmagnet.net>
Cc: <info@freesoft.cz>
References: <200111140844.QAA09039@ns4.trafficmagnet.net>
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hi christine,

thank you but we don't need a global reach since we are a local =
foundation, and a non-profit organization on top of that. thus your =
offer is not applicable to us.

best regards,
pavel makovec

----- Original Message -----=20
From: Christine Hall=20
To: info@freesoft.cz=20
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 5:50 AM
Subject: WWW.FREESOFT.CZ


Hi

I visited WWW.FREESOFT.CZ, and noticed that you're not listed on some =
search engines! I think we can offer you a service which can help you =
increase traffic and the number of visitors to your website.

I would like to introduce you to TrafficMagnet. We offer a unique =
technology that will submit your website to over 300,000 search engines =
and directories every month.



You'll be surprised by the low-cost, and by how effective this website =
promotion method can be.=20

To find out more about TrafficMagnet and the cost for submitting your =
website to over 300,000 search engines and directories, visit =
www.TrafficMagnet.net.=20

Would you like me to send you an introduction to how we can make =
WWW.FREESOFT.CZ listed on more search engines?

I would love to hear from you.=20

Best Regards=20

Christine Hall=20
Sales and Marketing=20
E-mail: christine@trafficmagnet.net=20
http://www.trafficmagnet.net

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From mtd@mk.cvut.cz  Thu Jan 31 19:38:54 2002
From: mtd@mk.cvut.cz (Martin Tomasek)
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 20:38:54 +0100
Subject: WWW.DEBIAN.CZ
References: <001f01c1aa7d$b69c1200$856114d4@toba>
Message-ID: <a3c6fs$2pb3$1@ns.felk.cvut.cz>

tohle je z jedne spammerske firmy, maily si zjistuji z webu. rozhodne
_neodpovidat_. (i kdyz ted uz je asi pozde :-)

> christine,
> 
> the same thing that I wrote to you a couple of times already (see
> attachment) apply to www.debian.cz as well.
> 
> pavel makovec
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Christine Hall
> To: czdebian-l@debian.cz
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 10:05 PM Subject: WWW.DEBIAN.CZ

-- 
Martin Tomasek, mtd@email.cz
rfc2795: Infinite Monkey Protocol Suite (IMPS)